Pebble Mine,
Stories & Perspectives
The Pebble Mine in
Information about the mine and opposing views
fill the internet. I can add nothing to
the plethora of information out there, and I do not try to do so in this
review. Rather I simply collate here
what I have written as I have observed developments. I will continue to write about this battle,
and will add those future writings to this piece as they are posted on other
parts of InfoMine.
I make no attempt to be comprehensive,
conclusive, or balanced. What follows is
pretty much what I wrote when I wrote it; and it represents my opinions at the
time. If they change through the
progressions of this piece, so be it: that is the way my mind works.
I trust only that you enjoy what I write and
are able to get some insight into this epic mining battle. I would appreciate your views and will
incorporate them into my future writings on the subject.
I read with horror (and
secret delight) a report that
Robert Dickinson, Chairman of Northern Dynasty Minerals, the
company seeking to develop the Pebble
mine in Alaska, predicted that “opponents of North America’s largest
copper deposit and largest known gold accumulation will fail miserably in their
efforts to stop development of Alaska’s Pebble project.” We all love a
duel, and we all love an epic battle between strong fighters. I love
watching WWE,
boxing, and Eugene Onegin (Act
2), and their enduring popularity proves I am not alone in the animal delight
that goes with seeing strong men beat up on one another. Seems to me
Robert Dickinson has thrown down the gauntlet and set the stage for an epic
duel. And we will all watch with bloody interest.
The stage on which the duel will
be fought and some of the protagonists are sketched in the remainder of the news
report. Here are extracts:
·
Northern
Dynasty considers Pebble the second-largest deposit of its kind, worth $200
billion.
·
State
officials stressed that Pebble’s resources have not yet been proven to be
economically minable.
·
Pebble
has generated opposition because of its location near rivers that feed
into
Rep. Bryce
Edgmon, D-Dillingham, introduced the Alaska Wild Salmon Act, stipulating that
fish would come first, no matter what kind of development activity takes place
in the
A bill introduced
by Alaska Senate Majority Leader Gary Stevens, R-Kodiak would create the Jay
Hammond State Game Refuge, which would encompass 5 million to 7 million acres
of state land in the
The citizens’
group Truth About Pebble, which
supports the Pebble project, asserts that both pieces of legislation “are
intended to stop the Pebble project before it even applies for permits under
You can see most of the submittals
to the Alaska Department of Natural Resources on Pebble and other Alaskan
mines at this
link. On the positive side I recommend taking a look at the
record of the Greens
Creek Mine. I spent two summers there in the early 1980s looking for
sites for the tailings impoundment. We were told that the mine would never
fly. But it did; it is a success; and it proves you can mine in
The web is filled with opinion
and counter-opinion on the wisdom of the Pebble Mine. Here is a true test
of the philosophies of sustainable development, responsible mining, community
relations, the limits of growth, ecological reserves, a better life-style for
all, and yes, religious-based arguments about resource development and resource
preservation. I cannot find anything intelligent on any of these topics
applied to the mine. It’s all bold statement and political ducking. I
suggest the Pebble Mine is a significant opportunity for the greater mining
industry and those philosophers of mining theory (myself included) to come to
grips with the clear clash of concepts and cultures that this mine
embodies.
My opinion, for what it is
worth: before this mine goes ahead, the public at large and those who may
be affected by it will have to be convinced of at least the following:
·
The
need for another copper mine to augment current and projected world needs.
·
The
need for more gold, here, there, and everywhere.
·
The
ability to develop the mine in a way that there will be no potential for
releases that would impact the waters of
·
Proof
that long-term water treatment will not be required once the mine shuts down.
·
Financial
mechanisms readily available to reclaim the mine so that the area returns to
sustainable use in the long-term regardless of profit or the fortunes of
nations.
·
A
demonstration that mining is a better use of the land than hunting, fishing,
and tourism.
·
Consensus
that any decision is a rational socio-economic decision and not the result of
bravado and/or politics.
Clearly the process is going to
test the efficacy of current environmental impact assessment regulations, the
ability of the company to interact with regulators, the justice of
the courts, the influence of the internet, and the power of interest groups.
And at the end maybe we will have a clearer philosophy of mining and resource
development.
In the old days of mining in
My father worked for Union Corporation, now long disappeared into other mining entities. But big as Union Corporation was, we still shivered in awe of Anglo. They were known as the progressive ones. They even asked the government once if they could treat their Black employees nicely. That was courage in those days.
At university a friend took me to his father’s office in the Anglo building. His father was a civil engineer with Anglo. That was like approaching the inner sanctum.
As a post-graduate, my master’s thesis was supervised by a fellow who became
chief civil engineer for Anglo. I have not seen him since, although last
year entertained his son and wife in
In the evenings after five-o’clock tea in the university residence common
room, we would head up through
the
grand mansions of Parktown and run around the parks and past the house where
the Oppenheimers lived. This clearly was power and luxury beyond our first
imagination.
By then politics was rough. Some mornings a fellow student would
simply not be there: the security police had picked him up over night for
protesting apartheid. My girlfriend had a visit from the security police
warning her to desist from church work in the local township least her father,
a military man, were to find his career in jeopardy. We secretly
circulated and read banned books including Black Beauty and Lady
Chatterley’s Lover. And went to banned screenings of movies like Guess
Who Is Coming to Dinner. None, incidentally, risqué, but considered a
threat to white supremacy nevertheless.
And maybe it was a threat to white supremacy for the government changed, but
by then we had left, for that is not a place or a way of life in which to bring
up children or even to try to live comfortably with yourself if you are lucky
enough to be able to go elsewhere. Only two of my old university friends
are still in
This personal reverie is prompted by reports
that Anglo American is dithering
about
continuing to develop a platinum mine in
Mining giant Anglo American has defended its controversial
decision to invest hundreds of millions of pounds in platinum mine in
For as long as I can remember, Anglo American has mined in repressive places
and has tried to use its mining and financial clout to improve the lot of the
country’s dispossessed. I recall they were always at the forefront in
South Africa of bold and brave calls for better treatment of the Blacks, for
opening the economy to others, and to development to benefit the masses—and
themselves of course. 
Is their
There is no question that
The question though is, is Anglo right or wrong in continuing to operate and plan to develop there? No doubt their hope is the passing of the Mugabes and the coming of a semblance of decency in government. Anglo has sweated it out successfully in the past, maybe they can do it again in this dark African place.
Anglo America under its Canadian leader, Cynthia Carroll, certainly is
bold these days—or maybe it has not changed at all?. Consider both this 
And for sure, Anglo is committed to doing the mining right—for as I have already said, I believe in the engineering ethics of Anglo’s engineers. Only problem is I have studied with them and know we are still learning. As this very piece proves.
I will follow the story of Anglo America in
Here is a repeat of a long report from MineWeb. I repeat it here in its entirety because I suspect this story is about events that will play out for a long time to come and which will have a profound impact on mining and society for even longer–regardless of how it turns out.
If you do not like news reports, and you prefer the raw material, go to
this link for the initiative in question. It is all again about
Pebble Mine and the future of Anglo American, the future of

Here is the MineWeb story:
The
The first initiative, Clean Water No. 1, prohibits large mines from releasing or discharging toxic chemicals in measureable amounts that could possibly affect human health or welfare, or any stage of the salmon life cycle. The State Supreme Court will decide if the issue will be placed on the November ballot.
The second initiative, known as Clean Water No. 3, is
viewed as a companion measure in the event that Clean Water No. 1 doesn’t
survive the legal challenge, Renewable Natural Resources Coalition attorney
Jeff Feldman told an
Karl Hannesman, a Pogo mine manager and president of the Council of Alaska Producers, asserts that the initiative is so broad and so badly written that it will affect both current and future major meta mines on state, federal, university, borough and native lands. He contends the ballot measure will effectively prohibit the operation of any major metals mine, even if it complies with all current state and federal environmental regulations.
As an example, the initiative would prohibit the operation of any major metal mine exceeding 640 acres if it generates any waste rock of tailings, according to Hannesman. However, backers of the initiative say it has a grandfather clause that will exempt mines that have all their permits.
Art Hackney of the environmental NGO, the Renewable Resources Coalition, told the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner that proponents have no desire to shut down existing mines. “That would only be the case if they are looking for permits, looking for expansion, if they were going to be putting at risk significant salmon spawning streams or streams used by human for drinking water. Most of these mines don’t fall into that classification.
Steve Borell, Executive Director of the Alaska Miners Association, has advised that the ballot measure “undermines a fair and open environmental review and permitting process. …Each project should be judge on its own merits. But the anti-mining initiative would arbitrarily prohibit mining projects statewide and shut down mines without any environmental review process-and without any scientific evaluation of whether a mining project actually would harm the environment.”
The trade group, Alaskans Against Mining Shutdown, has
retained public relations and government affairs consultants to help battle the
initiatives. Two native corporations, the Alaska Federation of Natives and the
Association of ANCSA Regional Corporation Presidents, have sued the State of
From the April 2007 issue of Mining Engineering, here is a summary of the
description of the proposed Pebble Mine’s proposed tailings impoundment.
Recall that Pebble Mine is a large copper-moly-gold deposit in
The design objectives are:
Ø
Render the potentially
reactive material inert and protect water quality in the impoundment.
Ø
Safely impound water,
minimize the quantity of water used, and protect downstream water quality.
Ø
Minimize water seepage
from the impoundment and capture seepage that does occur.
Ø
Meet of exceed the
seismic design parameters set by the State of
To render potentially reactive material inert, the material will be placed under water and entombed in non-reactive tailings. The five to ten percent of tailings that contain a high percent of sulfides will be separately discharged so that they are below the pond. Potentially reactive waste rock will be co-disposed in the tailings impoundment.
To control seepage, a trench will be excavated through alluvium to bedrock. A grout curtain is proposed into the bedrock. During the initial phases of embankment construction, a high density polyethylene geomembrane (HDPE) will be placed on the face of the embankment. Thereafter when the embankment construction converts to centerline construction, a compacted glacial till core will be placed. Drains will collect embankment seepage and direct it to sumps.
I would like to see a cross section through this proposed embankment: I cannot understand how you can use HDPE in a long-term structure subject to time and earthquakes. Why not use clay all the way?
Earthquake stability will be achieved by design for what sounds like the probable maximum earthquake that would result in a “maximum possible megathrust earthquake with a value of 0.3g.” I apologize to my earthquake-specialist friends if they quake at this seismic description. So do I.
The article gives no information about the post-closure geomorphic performance of the impoundment during the period of maintenance and thereafter.
Here is a book I have not yet read: Quantifying Environmental Impact Assessment Using Fuzzy Logic by Richard B. Shepard. I write about this book below as the author is a frequent commenter on my blog and has posed the following interesting comment.
I've heard mining industry
environmental staff, executives, and regulators complain about the time
involved, the costs, and the uncertainties of outcomes of the environmental
impact assessment process. The three most common reasons EIAs are appealed or
challenged in court are 1) the decision was arbitrary and capricious, 2) not
all alternatives were equally considered (a violation of CEQ guidelines), and
3) opinions expressed during scoping were ignored without reason.
Since these assessments are
inherently subjective, these reasons are extremely difficult to defend. About
four years ago I realized that I could do something about this by applying the
relatively esoteric mathematics of fuzzy set theory to quantify subjectivity in
EIAs. The mathematics is commonplace in control systems (driverless trains,
aircraft autopilots, elevators, a ton of household appliances, autofocus
cameras, etc.) and profitably used by a number of large businesses and
manufacturers.
I've been talking with executives
and environmental staff in the mining industry about application of the fuzzy
logic approach for a long while. I get some interest, but not one person has
called or sent an e-mail asking for more information or an explanation of how
it might help him. Since this approach specifically addresses the problems
they've said they want to see resolved, I don't understand the lack of
interest. Perhaps it's fear of change. Perhaps it's not their money or job
that's at risk. When I can sit down with people, face to face, and discuss their
concerns and how we address them, the response is quite positive.
For three years I've been in
periodic contact with the Northern Dynasty folks about the Pebble project. No
particular interest on their part, despite the rising opposition they face
there. Last week, I sent an e-mail to Cynthia Carroll of Anglo American which
she passed on to the Sr VPs for their Base Metals Group and External Affairs.
This morning, the latter sent back a reply that said "we don't want to
accelerate our permitting, but want to let people participate and make the
process transparent." Well, that's exactly what the brochure and my e-mail
message stressed, so the response is puzzling, to write the least.
My primary experience with EIS (Environmental Impact Statement) is preparing the engineering sections of EIS for uranium mill tailing remediation. We did things the simplest way: get out and talk to the folk involved, set out the simplest alternatives, and describe them in the easiest possible prose. We succeeded every time.
I wrote two EIS’s using decisions theory to justify the conclusion. The regulators rejected them saying they could not understand the process.
My boss makes lots of consulting money selling his Multiple Accounts Analysis approach to comparing alternatives. It’s a pretty basic spreadsheet approach; but the users love it for they can easily understand it. You use the computer only to add things up. Not to generate random numbers of functions.
I suspect that people, in general, do not like to admit that processes are random or fuzzy, or uncontrolled. It’s a fact; but they don’t like it. So they won’t do it.
People like certainty. Witness the great religions: All very simple and sure in their dogma. No probability there.
Why would any mining company admit to uncertainty or probability of fuzziness in their logic? That would be akin to suicide in the market place of true believers for and against mining who seek religious certainly, not truth.
The Pebble Mine is a perfect example. Either you are for it or against it.
Either you believe it is the way to bring the benefits of Anglo American’s
Witwatersrand experience to
The decision to advance the Pebble Mine is not economic, or financial, or even political. It is simply another clash of cultures, belief systems, secular religions if you like. The players no more need the truth, determinate or fuzzy, than the players in any other great clash of civilizations or religions. You may read the book on fuzzy logic if you can afford it, but you do not need it to set your compass in the clash of ideas that surround mines.
What is involved in permitting a mine? The answer varies depending on the type and location of your mine. The process may often be shrouded in mystery behind the marble columns of regulatory agencies whose power comes from obscurity.
But none of this is true in the case of
At this link is a conventional listing of
permits to be obtained from the Alaska Department of Natural Resources (DNR) to
open a mine in
Large mines typically require dozens of permits from state, federal, and local government agencies. Depending on the size and nature of the mine, the permitting process may be extremely complex. For this reason, the Department of Natural Resources coordinates the process with an interagency team of experts in mine design and closure. The team reviews applications for the construction and operation of the mine by meeting state water quality standards, environmental monitoring requirements, and site closure. In order to address these issues, the team must understand the chemistry of the mine’s ore, waste rock, and tailings. The process provides a model for efficient permitting and environmental protection.
Do not forget that you will need many more permits from federal agencies.
Of course everybody is excited about the large mine projects potentially
upcoming in
But is you just want to open a small gold mine, things might be a bit
easier—see this link where the permits required to
undertake small gold mining in
The real issue regarding mine permitting in
One thought on the Pebble Mine before the people of Alaska to vote on 26 August on the mine’s future.
Earlier this year
Some will tell you that BC rejected the mine because it would have affected
a lake which native peoples consider sacred. The 246-page report leading
to rejection of the mine examines the issue of the
sacred lake, but I contend the report rejects the mine for a far more
cogent reason. 
Quite simply, the mine would have been in operation for ten years, and thereafter—in perpetuity—would have involved treatment of acid mine drainage. The report concludes that the cost of perpetual water treatment simply did no justify the income derived from ten years of mining.
Now at Pebble I have seen nothing about how long the mine would operate. I have seen nothing about how long after cessation of mining water treatment would be required. Let us assume the mine has an effective life of fifty years. I bet my bottom dollar it will be necessary to treat seepage from the closed mine site for ever.
So
in this case we have a time ratio of fifty years
So in this case we have a time ratio of fifty years to infinity as compared to ten years to infinity at Kemess. Does this “bigger” ratio make for a sensible project? I leave that to Alaskans to decide.
Of course if Alaskans can get a sufficient guarantee from Anglo American to
fund perpetual mine seepage, they might consider letting them mine. I can
conceive of no way to get a perpetual bond from a company. Inevitably the state
and its taxpayers will have to pay. I suppose if Anglo hands over
all the Anglo diamond mines to the State of
Thus my advice (tongue in cheek to those who e-mail me accusing me of taking sides):
Ø Get possession of all Anglo’s diamond mine interests.
Ø Let ‘em mine Pebble.
Ø Then in fifty-one years time use the money from the diamond mines to fund perpetual mine seepage water treatment.
That way you can keep the fishing jobs for ever. You can have the
mining jobs for fifty years. And from year fifty-one onwards you have
both fishing and water treatment jobs. And you can give your ladies
blood-free diamonds.

The Faro Mine is arguably the most
polluted closed mine in
But, in fact most of the money spent on the mine each year probably flows
back to Vancouver,

Back to the locals and their work opportunities: in a news report, we learn that Denison Environmental Services, a division of Denison Mines Inc has been awarded a three-year contract for care and maintenance of the Faro Mine Complex in the Yukon. For the locals there is this solace at the tail end to the report:
Denison Mines noted that the contract also includes provisions for training and employment opportunities for affected Yukon First Nations and Yukoners.
The contract is worth about $7.2 million annually. For that sum,
The three-year, $7.2 million per annum contract will provide care and maintenance services at the Faro Mine Complex. This will include the ongoing collection and treatment of contaminated water, management of uncontaminated runoff, inspection and maintenance of dams and diversion channels, water quality monitoring, general maintenance, and site security.
Funny thing about the many reports on the web about the Faro Mine is how even the politicians make it seem like this is a good thing. And it is if you are committed to cleaning up mining sites with public money as a way to make work for otherwise unemployed locals.
I acknowledge there are vast differences between the
Somehow I cannot but think that $7.2 million a year on education would achieve more in the long run than keeping pollution in check. Course at Faro they do not have the option; they have to maintain the site, for the results of neglect would be far worse than an uneducated populace.
At Pebble they have the option. They still have plenty of time to decide not to mine. They have plenty of time to decide that they want jobs now and in perpetuity. Now and for 50 to 100 years they will have jobs mining. And then forever and ever, they will have jobs maintaining the waste disposal facilities.
It is really quiet simple: if
Do the sins of the father accrue to the son? Does the new Anglo
American’s Cynthia Carroll bear responsibility for pollution in Africa,
Valid questions that come to mind as I read the report Anglo American’s Track Record: Rhetoric or Reality? Here is a summary that came with the e-mail announcing publication of this provocative report:
A new investigation into Anglo American’s environmental and social record
released today describes toxic mine waste spills, air and water pollution,
workplace fatalities and uprooted communities at mines owned by the
London-based corporation and its subsidiaries. As a result,
”The report shows that regardless of where Anglo American operates, what
rules it plays under, and who is at its helm, there have been problems,
including worker fatalities, polluted water, fish kills, and uprooted
communities, said Bobby Andrew, a board member of Nunamta Aulukestai, a group
of eight Native Bristol Bay corporations and villages. “We can’t afford to risk
our wild salmon on the slim promise that Anglo American might do things
differently in
In a press release issued last August, Anglo American said it was “committed to the highest international standards for community relations, environmental protection, and health and safety.” Yet the report, “Anglo American: Rhetoric or Reality?” by veteran corporate researcher and former journalist Phil Mattera, documents major spills, water and air pollution, damaged fish habitat, and local conflicts at Anglo American mines that run counter to its claims of corporate responsibility.
“We wanted to get the whole story, not just what Anglo American wants us to know,” said Andrew, whose group commissioned the report along with Renewable Resources Coalition to gain new information about the mining corporation, one of the top five in the world with $30 billion in revenues last year.
I can vouchsafe for the pollution in
But in those days every mine, everywhere was doing the same. We rode
bikes without helmets
and
drove cars without safety belts. The kids slept un-harnessed on the back
seat of the car. We went into the sun without hats or sun-screen.
We smoked, we drank, and we exceeded the speed limit. We had the
essentials in the car though: a gun under the seat, just in case.
Those slimes dams helped my father and his mates recover from five years of
war, including El Alamein.
That pollution put me through university, enabled me to escape poverty, and
come to
Thus, in my opinion, this report simply begs the question. That
question is: now, today, and tomorrow can any company develop a massive mine
like the Pebble Mine in such a way that there is no pollution, no impact, and
no long-lasting need for perpetual cleanup and care. In my ‘umble
opinion, nobody can provide an answer based on precedent. Not even from
I have designed and built my share of tailings impoundments. Some of them can be seen from space, including the one that replaced the failed Impala Platinum slimes dam. I find it easily with GoogleEarth, for it is still operating. It is a great structure, ingenious in its layout, organized for extra stability, and destined to last forever. But recall that at the end of the day I am only human, a consultant at best, and paid to represent my client’s interests in a professional way.
I spent two summers on
I work with a fellow who is far smarter than me. He is a peer reviewer on many a large slimes dam; some bigger than Pebble will ever be. But at the end of the day he too is only human.
If
you want to get the feel for the average person who designs and builds mine
slimes dams come in October to Vail for the conference Tailings
and Mine Waste ‘08 and you will see we are all too human.
That is my point: humans can promise, but we cannot guarantee delivery. We can sin, and reform, and promise to be good ever after, but we cannot guarantee delivery.
So to question Anglo American’s past sins or to doubt its current
protestations of goodness, is totally irrelevant. To expect mere humans
to make promises they can guarantee is folly. Hard as it is for a nation
that does not believe in science or evolution, hard science is all
that
I cannot advise the State on how to proceed. They have their
share of current problems from indicted senators to revelations that the whole
state subsists as a socialist setup paid for by the rest of the
nation. Maybe like
subsist like medieval serfs. Afterall they voted
Republican and as the latest Economist reminds us:
Between 2002 and 2006 the incomes of 99% rose by an average of 1% per year in real terms, while those of the top 1%v rose by 11% a year; three-quarters of the economic gains during Bush’s presidency went to that top 1%.
(Funny how we all believe when voting that we belong in that 1%. Even though facts tell us otherwise. Well, maybe I am in the upper 5% or 10%. We have done well too!)
If they want to be true Republicans and like what has happened and want it
to continue, then they should reject the mine, reject development, reject
reformed sinners, and get on with unscientific idealism.
Anglo must now respond. Here are their options as I see it: